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Craig Brown's avatar

In Beltrán’s defense, it is the “Royals” Hall of Fame. But I certainly understand your stance. You will not be alone in that.

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Jeremy's avatar

I voted for Gordon, Beltran, Butler, Davis and Herrera. Come at me

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Craig Brown's avatar

Not outrageous enough. Have you seen Reddit?

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Jeremy's avatar

I don’t give a crap what Carlos did after he left KC. Maybe if the ownership hadn’t cheaped out on him, he would have stayed here and been the guy we always knew he could be.

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Craig Brown's avatar

Beltran can have three strikes against him when it comes to his time with the Royals:

1. Was never going to stay because, as you said, the Glass family wasn’t interested in spending money to improve the team.

2. The trade was baseball malpractice.

3. He never played for a true winner in Kansas City.

I bet it will take some time for him to get in, especially with the guys from ‘14 and ‘15 starting to show up on the ballot.

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Kcr1985's avatar

The decrease in TV revenue is the likely reason for holding payroll at 2024 level. Maybe Renfroe can added to a deal to offset some salary. And I love the Baty possibility, depending of course on what we would need to give up.

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Jeremy's avatar

Baty is not the guy to fill out this lineup. He would likely take a year or more to get right

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Hokius's avatar

If he ever does. He'd basically be a project to work on and hope. The Royals already have Melendez and Garcia as projects. They need someone they can count on, not someone to dream about.

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Craig Brown's avatar

The uncertainty around the TV deals has been a factor, but that was there in some form last season as well.

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Hokius's avatar

I agree with you about Gordon and I put Wade Davis in the same camp of automatic winner. So I chose to apply my five votes to Herrera, Dyson, Butler, Beltran, Soria.

I've heard from a couple of other writers (Lesky and LaMar) that they think the Royals will push that $140M range. If that's true, they should have plenty to add a big bat and a couple interesting pitchers. But Rosenthal has definitely got me stressed out and I'm really bummed the Royals missed out on Conforto

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Craig Brown's avatar

Strategic Royals Hall of Fame voting! Whoa.

I think we might be a year away from the $140 million range.

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Hokius's avatar

Maybe so. But even $125-$130 could be a huge improvement.

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Kcr1985's avatar

I agree he’s not the middle of order bat they need for 2025 but think it might be a solid upside play.

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herbie's avatar

The names floating around now leave MUCH to be desired. I hope this is an elaborate smokescreen by JJ and some other gms to mess with Boras, but I think its more likely that Papa Sherman said no to that new bike for Christmas. Which is super frustrating because they could have won alot of races with that bmx.

I know the players are divvied out $ for reaching the playoffs, but didn't the team profit as well?

Is the future of broadcast rights that bleak?

Are owners scared that the recent three quarters of a $Billion! contract signal a savings and loan collapse of MLB?

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Kcr1985's avatar

Last year it was a likelihood, this year reality. I spoke to a front office exec last month who mentioned payroll would stay flat due to the, at that time expected, reduction. How that actually plays out will be interesting to see.

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Jeff_Mann's avatar

Considering the Royals financial situation rather than trade from the Royals pitching depth perhaps they could shop in the Winker- Grichuk tier of platoon type of outfielders. Grichuk looks like a guy who could lengthen the Royals lineup without costing an arm and a leg. It's been written that he is looking for a deal similar to what Hunter Renfroe received. He posted an .875 OPS. Is an absolute monster against lefty's and plays all three outfield positions reasonably well. Bring back Hampson or find a 3rd base centric swiss army knife utility player and call it a day.

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